Sunday, February 03, 2008

For Barack Obama

I've got nothing against Hillary Clinton. I think she's a viable candidate, one heck of a politician that knows how to get things done, and true to the Democratic Party values.

But I'm for Barack Obama.

People say he lacks experience. I say bullfeathers. He had the opportunity to take the golden key and could have had his pick of jobs to bring himself great wealth. He chose public service instead. That is the sign of a man in search of experience of value.

They say he lacks foreign policy experience and I see that he is an exceptional student, still, and that he will rise to whatever occasion the world throws at him. Barack is one cool, calm and reasoned voice that people listen to. When he speaks, people don't just hear, they listen. Just as America takes notice, so shall the world. Beyond that, I have no doubt that he will have as good of advisers as any president, perhaps better.

Most of all, I believe in the future of this country, in the willingness of the people to rise above the crap we've had thrown at us for the past 7+ years, the lies, the sellout, the loss of lives and of hope.

I believe that Yes. We Can.


Anonymous Zoness said...

I'm glad there is someone out there who has a similar school of thought. I don't see why Christians have to be republician (ew haha) or support a conservative candidate. Go Obama!

2/05/2008 12:09 PM  
Anonymous playtah said...

Yeah! Go Obama or go home! :)

2/07/2008 3:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cannot possibly understand how someone can say they are a Christian and be pro choice-sorry, pro-murder ,let's be truthful.I in no way agree with everything the republicans stand for.However, I will never vote for a candidate who advocates murder.Don't try and talk about war,I don't agree with that either but sometimes it's inevitable.I challenge you to go to watch the video and tell me God and abortion can co-exist. I do appreciate you being politically active, God calls us to care!

2/19/2008 6:55 PM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

To Anonymous: I had been voting Republican all of my adult life based on the single issue of Abortion. Of course, I personally feel that abortion is murder, which is why I will never have one. And which is why I support Christ-based pregnancy resource centers.

I finally realized that most of the republican politicians are *not* anti-abortion, but rather, they preach an anti-abortion message in order to pander to the Evangelical base, and gain the valuable Republican endorsements of Dobson, et al. For example, Laura Bush and Barbara Bush are both pro-choice. What are the chances that GW is genuinely anti-choice?

Abortion is unfortunately legal, and I am under no illusion that any Republican will ever truly fight to make it illegal again. You just can't put the cork back on that bottle. Also, you can't legislate religious and moral beliefs onto those who do not share the same religion as you do. You can't convince a teen who wasn't raised in a Christian environment that a fetus is just as human as we are. So rather than calling her a murderer - which will only serve to turn her off to religion - it is more important to show her compassion as she made the only choice that she knew to make, in her fragile emotional state. It is more pracitical to teach her the importance of avoiding pregnancy in the first place, and valuing herself so that she isn't allowing her body to be used.

I found that, with the exception of what I contend is a false position against abortion, there is no reason that a Christian is required to vote for a Republican.

Abortion isn't the only issue in the election, and just as there are "Republicans For Choice" groups, there are Democrats Against Abortion.

2/24/2008 8:54 AM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

And, I have to say that it is rather telling that when you proclaim that Democrats are "pro-murder", you immediately say "Don't try and talk about war," which is the most blatant argument against the Bush Administration and the Republicans that supported the war.

Since you don't want to talk about the war, how about the death penalty, which not only carries out the deaths of too many people who are innocent of the crimes they were convicted of, but there are disturbing disparities when it comes to race/ethnicity of both the defendant and the victim. The one good thing Gov. George Ryan did here in IL was to commute the death sentences of death row inmates to life in prison b/c of the high number of inmates who had been proven to be wrongly convicted.

2/24/2008 10:43 AM  
Blogger Christian Democrat said...

Thanks, Nichole
Great to have your comments.

2/26/2008 3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I appreciate your comments. Do you really believe we can ignore God's laws because "we can't put a cork in it"? Are you serious? You say you can't legislate morality.What about the laws against murder, rape,stealing? Most laws legislate someones morality!By the way, I hope you would realize I want to win people to Christ.I would be very careful who I ever stated my opinions to,especially a young women,just for the reasons you stated.Love is what compels us. I totally agree with your postion on the death penalty,our justice system is incapable of enforcing it fairly! Hillary voted to go to war also, all the democrats have conveiniently forgotten this.

2/28/2008 6:19 PM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

But, I'm *not* ignoring God's laws. Like I said, I won't be having any abortions. It is the doctors who in their greed are ignoring God's laws, and the women who in their desperation are ignoring God's laws.

And in a country where the majority really don't believe in God, you aren't going to get the abortion laws overturned. And when I said "you can't legislate religious and moral beliefs onto those who do not share the same religion as you do:, what I was intending to say that just because we Christians believe that a fetus is human and that abortion is murder, doesn't mean that others believe that. I don't think that anyone would argue that rape, theft and murder are immoral - even those who commit these crimes. But you get the fight with abortion because so many people believe that a fetus is just parasitic tissue that does not have any rights, therefore removing it from a uterus is not murder. In the minds of those who are pro-choice, the difference between the crimes mentioned and abortion is that the crimes violate the rights of a person, and abortion does not.

So rather than preaching the religious aspects of it to those who are not religious, it is better to approach it from where *they* are coming from, and focus on preventing teen pregnancies in the first place, thus reducing abortions in a manner that makes sense to those who don't believe that a fetus is human.

Young girls need to be taught that they don't need to pimp out their bodies in exchange for what they think is "love". Young men need to be taught that it is wrong to use girls for their own gratification and then push them aside like trash. THAT is a powerful message to people from ALL backgrounds. The current anti-abortion message only serves to turn people off to faith, not lower instances of abortion.

Yes, laws against rape, murder, theft, etc. legislate morality, but only to the extent that these actions violate the rights of other people. Remember, the majority of people don't believe that a fetus has basic human rights, therefore the law is that it is the right of a woman to decide whether or not she ends a pregnancy.

I think I repeated myself in here, so sorry for the length.

I guess I'm just saying that the current anti-abortion message and methods are ineffective and detrimental to the Christian faith, and a better, more compassionate message needs to be given.

2/29/2008 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

And I also have to say that neither Christians nor Republicans have the corner on morality.

Can anyone say Sen. Larry Craig? Jimmy Swaggart? Rep. Mark Foley? Ted Haggard? Jim Bakker?

I'm not turning my back on Christianity, but I have no qualms about turning my back on the party that prefers to impoverish its citizens in order to enrich big business that take every opportunity to convert my hard earned salary into a $4 mil toga party for the wife of a CEO.

2/29/2008 12:57 PM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

This war was NOT inevitable.

Stopping Hitler was necessary - he was actively invading and destroying Europe.

Chasing Saddam wasn't.

2/29/2008 1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand your point of view about unbelievers feelings about abortion. I agree with you totally about some of your approaches. Where we are fundamentally different is our approach.I believe we have to vote our beliefs Democrat or Republican. If you think that Abortion is murder,I feel you are directly apposing God if you can vote for that. I think the best method is to live out your Christianity in love to others.Hopefully God can use us as instrument to draw others to Jesus.Then we can help them understand God's laws the way we belive them.We then change people one person at a time.We don't change our views because a fight is unwinnable.That is how Satan wins!! I do not think any party has the corner on morality, but I am not voting against my God,Sorry!!

2/29/2008 5:23 PM  
Anonymous Nichole said...

It is virtually impossible to vote based on our religious beliefs when the side that purports to represent them is 1. pandering to the Christian community in order to gain power, 2. only addressing the symptom (abortion) without addressing the *real* problem (teen pregnancy and poverty), and 3. not being honest with the public about their own personal beliefs about such issues.

I have *not* changed my views about abortion. I'm just as opposed to it now as I was when I voted Republican. I'm just not selling my vote to the party that lies about opposing it (among other things when it comes to pandering to the Christian community). There are too many other "Christian" issues that are better addressed by the Dems, such as feeding the poor, the unfair death penalty, the war, and being good stewards of our planet. And that is just the start.

A vote for a republican candidate simply isn't a vote against abortion, as you seem to think it is. If you really want to do something worthwhile to fight abortion, support your local pregnancy center, and support teaching students how they can avoid pregnancy.

3/04/2008 5:25 PM  
Anonymous jeremy said...

ok lets leave the abortion thing out of it for a minute. Nichole I presonaly agree with your views. Lets go on to Universal health care. (NOT SOCIALIZED) in the Bible Christ say "what you have done for the least of mine on earth you have done for me in hevean, what you have not done for the least of mine on earth you have not done for me in hevean". now my self if the goverment has to in anyway help pay for health care then that means my taxs WILL GO UP i don't need a diffrent health care set up for me (I work for a very large company that pays for mine and my familys) but thats not to say there are millions in this nation that simply cannot afford 400-600 a month for health care. where are the Republicans on this on? most of them dont think the system is broken because IT DOSEN'T EFFECT THEM. i ask you what kind of CHRISTIAN attitude is that it sure isnt one of the beatitudes described in Matthew 5

3/05/2008 5:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would you have such an inexperienced president? Hiliary Clinton would be better because she was a senator longer the 1st lady, which means she would actually know what she was doing.

3/30/2008 4:10 PM  
Blogger Christian Democrat said...

Anonymous -

I think Barack Obama has plenty of experience, and perhaps the experience better needed to lead this country. Hillary does have plenty of experience, too, but my sense from watching both Barack and Hillary is that Barack has a heart for people while Hillary has a heart to lead.

I actually like Hillary's health plan better than Barack's but my decision comes from hope for a truly greater future and that I feel will come better from Barack than from Hillary.

3/31/2008 10:57 AM  
Anonymous nichole said...

An interesting article on Newsweek relative to Evangelicals and Abortion.

I think that the article saying we "support abortion" is quite a misnomer, however, for the very reasons I've outlined in my previous comments here. I don't support abortion, but I think that outlawing it is a losing battle which is why it is not an issue for me in this election.

4/05/2008 11:12 PM  

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