Tuesday, October 07, 2008

Presidential Debate #2 - Healthcare

I'm catching the replay of the debate after a really good night of youth ministry. I caught about 20 minutes of the debate before going but was more focused on the lesson of the night, John 13:1-17, Jesus washing the feet of His disciples, Jesus the servant. I'm thrilled to say that my co-leader and I reached a couple of kids on this concept and perhaps made all of them think of what service is all about.

But this is about the debate, and hearing Barack speak of service, the Peace Corps and more, as a key part of where we need to go as a nation, did my heart good.

To the debate, for me it was all about healthcare which I've only recently come to understand Barack Obama's position on. For those of you that read here regularly, you may know that I was more in favor of John Edward's position on healthcare. I like universal healthcare and that isn't what Barack espouses. He's smarter than that, so smart it almost got past me.

We can's imply throw however many million people work in the health insurance industry out of work. We can, however, offer the public a better plan, the same plan that congress is given, and at a lower cost than most of us, or our employers, are currently paying. Plus, that plan can cover people with pre-existing conditions which is the great "back door" that insurance companies use to toss out expensive claims while tossing the "insured" into the fire of bankruptcy.

Barack's plan let's free markets work with the people represented in that free market in their best collective interest. It doesn't close business for those that run insurance brokerages (my brother-in-law, for instance) but provides a real competition for them that isn't part of their consortium. It doesn't put the workers out of work but given a length of time it may put the fat-cats out of business and have their employees working for the government program, saving ...ahem ... trillions of dollars in fat-cat salaries and bonuses while keeping the workers employed if, perhaps, with a different employer.

As for the other issues discussed, I hope you took the time to watch the debate in it's entirety. That's your job as a voter. Watch, consider, vote. Here's part 1. Here's part 2.

One final thought - if we are looking for change in Washington, and I think we are, do you want the guy that's been there for 26 years and admits to having ticked off folks on both sides of the isle, or do we want a guy that has spent his adult life in service to the community, the last three years in Washington learning it's ways, and pledges to continue to serve the people given the opportunity?


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10/10/2008 8:19 AM  
Blogger Skoegahom said...

I commend you for your stance both in Christianity and politics. And like you I have serious issues with Sarah Palin potentially being in a place to assume the presidency.

However, I would like to say that whether it's Sarah Palin calling Barack Obama Hussein or you calling Sarah Palin Pit Bull I have a hard time finding an example of name calling in the Sermon on the Mount.

10/10/2008 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just found your blog, and I'm thrilled- I've had a hard time convincing my family (who firmly believes that the GOP is God's party) why I'm voting Democrat. I was also thrilled to hear Barack speak of the Peace Corps and also of restoring personal financial integrity as a means of getting through the economic crisis. And not to start trying to give you ideas for posts, but I'd love to hear your perspective on the smear campaign that McCain and Palin are running. Even if I didn't support the Democrats already, I'd leave McCain in the dust after the appalling, non-Christian way the campaign has been conducting itself.

10/10/2008 10:49 PM  
Blogger Christian Democrat said...

Thanks to the three of you for your comments.

I'll take the rebuke from skoegahom for the unkind name I use for Sarah Palin, and admit I thought about not using it myself. We are called to a higher standard but it was so ... apt. Her using the comparison herself was what tipped me over. Aplogies, skoegahom, you are right, but I'm staying with the nickname because it fits so well. What sorts of names do you think Jesus used for the Pharisees when overturning the moneychangers tables in the temple court? Well, probably not anything like this, but calling a hired gun just what they are is appropriate. And yes, I'll remain convicted of my imperfection.

As for the smear campaign, I'm probably leaving it alone. They are desperate. What is more surprising, and actually shows McCain's character if not those that run his campaign, were his remarks yesterday trying to calm the rabid Republicans at his tour stops. For him to try to talk them down from the "Arab" and "terrorist" comments shows respect, something he should have ignored his handlers and made use of all along.

But I wouldn't want to go writing that as a main piece, now would I? The truth is those same handlers and others of their ilk will make up his cabinet and distract him as they do.

Obama is running a pretty good campaign for the moment and this turn of events should keep him on that track although the final debate could prove interesting. I hope so anyway.

10/11/2008 12:03 PM  
Blogger Skoegahom said...

An apology to me was not necessary as I too am an imperfect being struggling to follow the path that Jesus walked. However, I found your blog because I was searching the web for a well thought out apology to counter my Evangelical right friend's views that all Christians must be Republicans.


However, I did find Brian McLaren’s Blog and I think you might find it interesting.

10/12/2008 6:35 PM  
Blogger Christian Democrat said...

skoegahom -

I'm post-apologetic, against bipartisanship because it is an idea that both sides proclaim until faced with the need to pull together a bill that does some good.

Remember W's "uniter not a divider" statement. Umm ... yeah, right.

The fundamentalist section of the right wing, along with their secular business driven cohorts, will call for unity when they are campaigning but will, as Dick Cheney did, give the single finger salute to the other side when on the Senate floor.

Sadly, the Dems too often bought into that. I think Oback Barama sees that and will act accordingly.

Thanks for the link to Brian's blog. He is much more peaceful than I.

10/13/2008 8:28 AM  
Blogger Christian Democrat said...


This afternoon I happened to catch Hank Williams Jr. singing an intro to Sarah Palin at her event in Loveland, CO. Behind Hank was a fan holding up a sign that said, simply, "Pit Bull Palin".

Apparently she's fond or at least accepting of the reference.

Once she started speaking I had to change channels as I simply cannot stand to hear her say anything.

10/20/2008 3:57 PM  

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